Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

From: Alan Story <a.c.story_at_UKC.AC.UK>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:52:00 +0100


Sally Morris' note raised the issue of copyright and journals on your list.
And so I responded with a copyright and journals-related response. If you do
want copyight-related posts, then don't put them on the first place.

And no lectures, thank you.

Alan Story .

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevan Harnad" <>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Alan Story wrote:
> > The ALPSP may call their deal a "model licence"...but instead it should
> > called a "Model-T (as in circa 1930 Model-T Ford ) licence."
> >
> > Yes, the author gets the possibility of retaining copyright, but the
> > publisher is assigned (at no cost to the publisher it should be
> > ALL of the other rights, including digitalisation rights, re-publication
> > rights, rights regarding non-profit educational uses of the work.
> >
> > Hence, AFTER hard copy publication (and hence not conflicting with
> > "subversive proposal"), the publisher has the right to prevent any
> > archiving" by an author(X) or her/his work and the right to charge the
> > students of X's colleague a copyright royalty fee for the non-profit
> > educational use of that article.
> Please see my original comments on the ALPSP "model license" when it was
> announced in this Forum in 1999 (the URL is long and may truncate in
> your mailer, so you may have to use the mouse rather than just clicking
> on it):
> To clarify the Subversive Proposal:
> The ONLY thing that the authors of refereed research papers want or
> need is the right to self-archive publicly online in perpetuo. **That
> is all!** The rest is taken care of by the nature of the Web itself. A
> publicly archived document is accessible to anyone and everyone with
> access to the Net/Web.
> Please do not conflate this very important and clearcut right, unique to
> the refereed research literature, which is and always has been an author
> give-away, with other copyright concerns, having to do with "fair use",
> "intellectual property," etc. Those are all worthy causes but NOT the
> same as what is the primary focus of this Forum, which is the refereed
> research literature, written by researchers, for researchers, and for
> research itself.
> If we mix up the two (for-research/for-teaching, or
> give-away/non-give-away), we not only cloud the picture, but we delay
> the optimal/inevitable outcome (for the refereed research literature):
> The following is all that is needed in a copyright statement for the
> refereed research literature (but ALPSP alas does not seem to
> quite provide it)(from:
> "I hereby transfer to [publisher or journal] all rights to sell or
> lease the text (paper and online) of [paper-title]. I retain only
> the right to distribute it for free for scholarly/scientific or
> educational purposes, in particular, the right to self-archive it
> publicly online on the Web."
> The American Physical Society version of this same basic arrangement is
> at :
> "The author(s) shall have the following rights: The author(s)
> agree that all copies of the Article made under any of these
> following rights shall include notice of the APS copyright...
> ....
> (3) The right, after publication by APS, to use all or part of
> the Article without revision or modification, including the
> APS-formatted version, in personal compilations or other
> publications of the author's own works, including the author's
> personal web home page, and to make copies of all or part of the
> Article for the author's use for lecture or classroom purposes.
> (4) The right to post and update the Article on e-print servers
> as long as files prepared and/or formatted by APS or its vendors
> are not used for that purpose. Any such posting made or updated
> after acceptance of the Article for publication shall include a
> link to the online abstract in the APS journal or to the entry
> page of the journal.
> [I might add only that the distinction between "personal web home page"
> and "e-print servers" is silly, incoherent, and hence untenable, but it
> makes no difference, if it makes some people happy to put it that way...]
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