Re: Garfield: "Acknowledged Self-Archiving is Not Prior Publication"

From: Joseph J. Esposito <>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:45:27 -0700

Well, isn't this the whole point? I mean the ENTIRE point? The issue of
intellecutal property (or knowledge or whatever you want to call it)
dissemination has only a teeny weeny bit to do with its creation and a huge
amount to actually calling things to people's attention. This is what
publishers do. Only in exceptional cases do authors do this. And that is
why publishers work with copyright. Find another way to call things to
people's attention and copyright and publishers will disappear. I mean
REALLY call things to people's attention. Niche stuff is different and not
hard (I can always walk next door to talk to my neighbor), but reaching mass
market audiences is terribly difficult. The field of dreams is a dream. It
doesn't matter how open your eyes and minds are if the information doesn't
reach your senses.

Joe Esposito

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevan Harnad" <>
To: <>
Cc: <>; "Digital Copyright"
<>; "Gene Garfield ISI"
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Garfield: "Acknowledged Self-Archiving is Not Prior

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, [identity removed] wrote:
> >sh> Currently, copyright law is doing double duty, (1) protecting
> >sh> copyright-holders from users who would make copies of their
> >sh> texts without paying for them (give-away authors do not want this
> >sh> protection) and (2) protecting copyright-holders from users who
> >sh> would make corrupted copies of their texts (including copies in
> >sh> which someone else is listed as the author). Almost all authors
> >sh> still want protection from the latter.
> > [identity removed]: This is, I think, a material point that has
> > otherwise been overlooked in the debate.
> Agreed. But "overlooked" is an operational matter! It's not as if this
> point has not been made, in writing (and skywriting), repeatedly, to be
> looked over (by those with eyes open to see and minds open to understand!)
> See:
> "PostGutenberg Copyright Concerns"
> [or just do a google search on: (harnad copyright protection authorship)]
> Stevan Harnad
> NOTE: A complete archive of the ongoing discussion of providing open
> access to the peer-reviewed research literature online is available at
> the American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00 & 01 & 02):
> or
> Discussion can be posted to:
> See also the Budapest Open Access Initiative:
> and the Free Online Scholarship Movement:
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