Re: Free Access vs. Open Access

From: Sally Morris <>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:50:17 +0100

Sorry for belated response

I think it is perfectly reasonable (and in no way a denial of Open Access)
for a publisher to wish to retain the right to sell derivative copies of a
work, even if in its original form it is made freely available. After all,
they've got to recover their costs somehow - and if they recover more from
other sources, they will not need to ask authors to pay so much.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lars Aronsson" <>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Free Access vs. Open Access

> Stevan Harnad wrote:
> > And what is meant by "redistribute" when the text is already distributed
> > all over the planet on the web, and freely available to anyone who may
> > wish to find, search, read, download, process computationally online or
> > offline, and print off anywhere in the world, any time?
> This sounds like the beginning of the free-as-beer or free-as-speech
> discussion from the GNU project all over again,
> Redistribute means the permission to copy the article and republish it
> on another website or on another medium. Some say that this right is
> necessary to assure that the contents will be permanently available,
> because you cannot trust any one institution to be around for ever.
> Most eloquently put, "Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload
> their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror
> it." ( The crucial
> question is then: Do you allow the world to mirror it?
> The conference paper that I have on
> is available for all to read free of charge, but you cannot
> copy-and-republish because I own the copyright, and I don't allow free
> copying and redistribution. If I find that you store a copy of it on
> your openly available website, I will ask you to take it down.
> But free software such as Linux is free to download, republish at your
> own website, sell on CDROM or redistribute in *almost* any way. This
> is not to say that it is in the public domain, which it is not. It is
> owned by its creators and licensed to you under the conditions set
> forth in the GNU General Public License.
> --
> Lars Aronsson (
> Aronsson Datateknik -
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