Re: Self-Archiving vs. Self-Publishing FAQ

From: Leslie Carr <>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:18:18 +0000

On 13 Nov 2004, at 06:54, Rick Anderson wrote:

> Look, obviously we're proceeding from a different set of definitions
> here.

> My point is simply that the word "publish" has a real-world definition
> that is far different from the artificially narrow one created by the
> OA establishment.
It may have many real-world definitions or uses, and in fact the OED
lists several
(1) To make publicly or generally known; to declare or report openly or
publicly; to announce; to tell or noise abroad; also, to propagate,
(2) To announce in a formal or official manner

I really do not think that the OA establishment (establishment? what
establishment?) has coined a new definition, rather that it is trying
to work with the definitions used by other people (establishments, if
you will). Hence the academic and scholarly establishment have a clear
idea (or rather "clear ideas") of what constitutes a "formal and
official" manner of announcing new research results- usually peer
reviewed journal or conference articles. This is the most pertinent
meaning of "publish" that OA has to address, and it is why "to
propagate/disseminate", although a perfectly good interpretation of
"publish" in most of the "real world" is actually inaccurate and
misleading within this part of the real world - the part that
researchers inhabit.

> If using the Berlin Declaration definition helps you do your work,
> fine.
The Berlin use (again, not a new meaning) helps us communicate about
our work.

> But don't yell at (or condescend to) the rest of the world when it
> insists on using the real-world definition.
The rest of the world needs informing when it makes miscomments and
promulgates misunderstandings. I hope that this isn't, of itself, a
condescending position, but it is a rather necessary one as
journalists, politicians, commentators and even researchers get
themselves tied up in knots when they start to reason using the wrong
Les Carr
Received on Sun Nov 14 2004 - 10:18:18 GMT

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