Re: Call for a vote of nonconfidence in the moderator of the AmSci Forum

From: Sally Morris (Morris Associates) <"Sally>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:07 +0100

A timely and very clear reminder

As promised, I am collecting votes (offline, to avoid cluttering up the
list) on whether Stevan should remain as moderator of the list. Please note
that we are NOT voting on (a) whether Stevan should change his posting style
(he has already said that he will not do so) or (b) whether Stevan should
cease to participate in the list - this has never been proposed and indeed
there would be precious few postings without him.

If you had misunderstood what you were voting about and want to change your
vote, in either direction, just let me know


Sally Morris
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-----Original Message-----
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
Behalf Of Jan Velterop
Sent: 13 October 2008 08:22
Subject: Re: Call for a vote of nonconfidence in the moderator of the AmSci

Apologies for the lateness of my comments on this matter. Stevan has
my full support. He is fully entitled to post on this list what he
wants and to withold submissions if he deems that right. Those who
hold the view that a list such as this one should ~V or indeed can ~V
be run 'objectively' and according to some pseudo-democratic rules
are, frankly, a bit na´ve. Those who don~Rt like Stevan~Rs judgement
with regard to acceptance of submissions can always start their own

That said, Stevan hasn~Rt made it easy on himself, combining the task
of moderator with that of host. Other lists separate these roles, and
he may wish to consider drafting someone in to help him run the list
and do the same (Stevan being the host; someone else being the
moderator, I would have thought, given the definitions of the roles,
see below).

The definitions that, for instance, the BBC uses for the two roles
are along the following lines:
A host's job is to encourage interesting discussions and to help
resolve disagreements. They post regularly on the lists, start
discussions or reply to questions. Hosts do not reject messages.
A moderator's job is to reject messages that break the ~QHouse Rules~R.
Messages will not be rejected for any other reason. Moderators do not
post messages on the lists.

Among the BBC ~QHouse Rules~R are the following (there are more).
Messages are rejected that
~EAre racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or
otherwise objectionable
~EContain swear words or other language likely to offend
~EBreak the law or condone or encourage unlawful activity.
~EAre considered to be off-topic
~EAre considered to be ~Qspam~R, that is posts containing the same, or
similar, message posted multiple times.

Apart from the possible problem of finding such help, the only
difficulty of my suggestion that I can foresee is perhaps dealing
with the last house rule mentioned. But then again, Stevan is free to
set his own house rules.

Jan Velterop=
Received on Mon Oct 13 2008 - 12:55:42 BST

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