Re: Google/Google Scholar merge?

From: Tim Gray, Homerton College Library <mtg32_at_cam.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:37 +0100

I am sure this was covered some months ago. Google Scholar results appearing
in 'vanilla' Google (presumably this is about the same thing?). For example
Peter Suber on 14 August 2008 who is quoting Stuart Lewis's blog
<http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/08/google-scholar-results-starting-
to.html>:

[quote:]
Stuart Lewis, Google bring Scholar richness into normal search results,
Stuart Lewis' Blog, August 13, 2008.
"Some good news for open access repository advocates: It seems that the
normal Google search engine has now started bringing the richness of Google
Scholar results into the main Google search results. This extra information
includes:
The (first) author's name
Links to papers that have cited it
Links to related articles
Links to other versions
For me this is great news. When we go out selling repositories to academics,
one of our arguments is "your paper will appear in Google Scholar, and other
specialist search engines such as Intute Repository Search and OAIster.
However, if we are honest, how many people use these, and I'm including
Google Scholar in this, as their first point of call? Not many I
suspect...."
[end quote]

Of course, some of the links are to subscription only sources and are mostly
inaccessible to those outside institutions that can afford the
subscriptions.

I am sure I read somewhere, long ago when Google Scholar was launched, that
it was based on a *subset* of 'vanilla' Google's data. Was this true then,
or ever true, or still true?

Tim Gray
Library Assistant
Homerton College Library


-----Original Message-----
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
[mailto:AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG] On
Behalf Of Frank McCown
Sent: 16 October 2008 14:31
To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM_at_LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
Subject: Re: Google/Google Scholar merge?

I haven't seen any formal announcements, but I think this is part of
Google's larger strategy of merging results from multiple sources
(news, images, etc.) into a single results page, what they call
universal search.

http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/universalsearch_20070516.html

Regards,
Frank


On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Stevan Harnad <amsciforum_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Leslie Carr <lac -- ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:05:14 +0100
> Subject: Google/Google Scholar merge?
> To: JISC-REPOSITORIES -- jiscmail.ac.uk
>
> I was just using Google to search for items in repositories when I
> noticed that some Google results have Google Scholar data associated
> with them - author name, year of publication, number of citations and
> links to the Google scholar records.
>
> See the following examples:
> (EPrints Soton)
>
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&
q=site%3Aeprints.soton.ac.uk+%22institutional+repositories%22&btnG=Search
>
> (DSpace MIT)
>
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&
q=site%3Adspace.mit.edu+%22digital+preservation%22&btnG=Search
>
> I'm not aware of any announcements about this. Does anyone have any
> more information?
>
> On closer inspection, it seems that any of the versions of a paper
> that Google Scholar has identified will appear with the enhanced
> information - whether in a repository or on a publisher's website or
> an author's home page. The author names are sometimes somewhat awry -
> you will often see authors listed as "Submission R" because the paper
> is listed under Recent Submissions or similar.
>
> The vast majority of repository usage comes from Google, not Google
> scholar, and so this development is very welcome because it allows
> users to see some kind of scholarly perspective on top of Google's
> (and the Web's) model of individual document resources.
> --
> Les Carr
>



--
Frank McCown, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Computer Science
Harding University
http://www.harding.edu/fmccown/
Received on Fri Oct 17 2008 - 19:03:39 BST

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.0 : Fri Dec 10 2010 - 19:49:33 GMT