Re: Gold Fever: Read and Weep

From: Leslie Carr <>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:38:48 +0100

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This comment was reported in the "independent daily student
newspaper"  - so its record of the debate will probably not be
totally accurate.But I would like to reassure Prof Moses about Open
Access to Women's Studies. The following are listed as the two top
journals"in women's studies: Gender and Society (Sage Publishing)
and Signs (University of Chicago Press) and Sherpa Romeo lists both
of these journals as allowing preprint deposit and postprint deposit
with embargo.--
Les Carr

On 25 Apr 2009, at 14:48, David Prosser wrote:

      Interestingly, the main objection against the policy as
      reported was:


      "Open access will kill the journals you need during your
      career," women's studies professor and university senator
      Claire Moses said. "It's as simple as that."


      That is not a gold/green OA misunderstanding.  That?s
      just a misunderstanding.  It is not clear to me that this
      would have been cleared-up if the Maryland resolution had
      removed all mention of journals ? some academics fear
      that green OA will destroy journals.


      I know that some feel that all the world?s ills can be
      layed at the door of gold OA, but this really doesn?t
      look like a case of so-called ?gold fever?.




      David C Prosser PhD


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      From: Repositories discussion list
      [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES_at_JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
      Stevan Harnad
      Sent: 24 April 2009 17:27
      Subject: Gold Fever: Read and Weep


** Apologies for cross-posting **


Those who still harbor any doubt that the mixing of talk about
Gold OA publishing or funding with plans for Green OA
self-archiving mandates causes anything but confusion,
distraction, delay and failure to make progress toward
universal OA: Please readPeter Suber's comments on this this
latest fiasco at the University of Maryland -- and weep.

And then please trust some sound advice from a weary and
wizened but world-wise archivangelist:

Disentangle completely all talk and policy concerning the
requirement to self-archive refereed journal articles (the
Green OA mandate) from any advice concerning whether or not to
publish in Gold OA journals, and from any plans to help authors
pay for Gold OA journal publishing charges, should they elect
to publish in a fee-based Gold OA journal.

Otherwise this mindless and thoughtless Gold Fever will just
usher in yet another half-decade of failure to reach for what
is already fully within the global research community's grasp:
universal Green OA through universal Green OA self-archiving
mandates adopted by universities and research funders

Stevan Harnad
American Scientist Open Access Forum
Received on Sat Apr 25 2009 - 21:40:33 BST

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