Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:09:14 -0500

Indeed, Larry!

And Stevan Harnad is quite right is refusing to equate Open Access with the Gold

In fact, Open Access is made up of two approaches: OA publishing or "Gold Road"
and self-archiving or "Green Road". And both roads are valuable, arguably
equally (although differently) valuable.

As for Wallace-Evans, one only has to see how he characterized Robert K. Merton
("most pusillanimous"... ???) to realize that the barbarians are at the gates.
It is a pity to see a priodical like Nation fall this low. I used to like
reading Nation when I was a student.

Jean-Claude Guédon

Le dimanche 14 novembre 2010 à 10:21 -0500, Stevan Harnad a écrit :
      One can sympathize with Larry Lessig's frustration in "An Obvious
                  "In 2010, [for David Wallace-Evans] to
                  suggest [in a 6000-word review in The
                  Nation] that [the Creative Commons movement]
                  'exhort[s]… piracy and the plundering of
                  culture'... betrays not just sloppy thinking
                  [but] extraordinary ignorance… [and lack of]
                  respect for what has been written… This
                  terrain has been plowed a hundred times in
                  the past decade… Reading is the first step
                  to… respect for what has been written...
                  Reading is what Wallace-Wells has not done

      Larry tries to correct Wallace-Evans's 6000 sloppy words with 878
      carefully chosen ones of his own. 

      Let me try to atone for my own frequent long-windedness by trying to
      put it even more succinctly (20 words):
                  Creative Commons' goal 
                  is to protect 
                  creators' give-away rights -- 
                  not consumers' 
                  (or 2nd-party copyright-holders') 
                  rip-off rights.

      (Reader's of the American Scientist Open Access Forum may have a
      sense of déjà lu about this since at least as far back as December


            Harnad, Stevan (2000/2001/2003/2004) For Whom the Gate
            Tolls? Published as: (2003) Open Access to Peer-Reviewed
            Research Through Author/Institution Self-Archiving:
            Maximizing Research Impact by Maximizing Online Access.
            In: Law, Derek & Judith Andrews, Eds. Digital Libraries:
            Policy Planning and Practice. Ashgate Publishing 2003.
            [Shorter version: Harnad S. (2003) Journal of
            Postgraduate Medicine 49: 337-342.] and in:
            (2004) Historical Social Research (HSR) 29:1. [French
            version: Harnad, S. (2003) Cielographie et cielolexie:
            Anomalie post-gutenbergienne et comment la resoudre. In:
            Origgi, G. & Arikha, N. (eds) Le texte a l'heure de
            l'Internet. Bibliotheque Centre Pompidou: 77-103.


      The persistent "piracy" canard calls to mind others like it,
      foremost among them being: 
      "OA ≡ Gold OA (publishing)"...


            Harnad, S., Brody, T., Vallieres, F., Carr, L.,
            Hitchcock, S., Gingras, Y, Oppenheim, C., Stamerjohanns,
            H., & Hilf, E. (2004) The green and the gold roads to
            Open Access. Nature Web Focus


Jean-Claude Guédon
Professeur titulaire
Littérature comparée
Université de Montréal
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