Re: Unconscious Processes Vs. Unconscious Mind

From: HARNAD Stevan (harnad@cogsci.soton.ac.uk)
Date: Fri Jun 07 1996 - 22:43:26 BST


> From: "Bardwell, Sam" <swrb195@soton.ac.uk>
> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:52:18 +0100
>
> Before we can ascertain the difference between these two subjects we
> must first define what each is. Simply, an unconscious process is what
> goes on in our head which enables us to perform any task, movement or
> action. We are not aware of them going on, we cannot find them with
> introspection, they are the HOW in our behaviour.
>
> An unconscious mind is slightly more complex and is best defined by
> first discussing a conscious mind. This can be thought of as feelings,
> the thoughts we have duting the day, whether it be wanting, pain,
> desire or frustration. We are aware of them and therefore can find them
> with introspection. An unconscious mind would therefore translate to be
> the feelings you are not aware of, a blatant contradiction in itself.

i.e., unfelt feelings doesn't make sense.

> An unconscious mind is an attempt to solve the question of HOW but
> instead simply re-creates the same question of HOW as you need to know
> HOW the unconscious mind is doing things. It is parallel to the
> homunculus problem.
>
> So unconscious processes and unconscious minds are both attempts to
> slove the problem of HOW in our minds, one fails to solve the problem,
> which is the unconscious mind. While the other, unconscious processes,
> concludes that there is something specific there but does not define
> what it is.... for if it could cognitive psychology's fundamental
> question would be solved.

Good. For an A, relate to reverse engineering, computationalism, or
other of the big unifying issues of the course.



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