Re: Parallel journals

From: Stevan Harnad <>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:12:37 -0400

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(1) We don't need "parallel journals": we just need parallel ACCESS
to the articles in the journals that already exist.
(2) That's what green OA self-archiving of the author's final
refereed, revised draft provides.

(3) Green OA does not provide "parallel articles" either. It just
provides parallel access to the same journals.

(4) The difference between the publisher's PDF and the author's
self-archived final refereed, revised draft are completely trivial.
This is not something a researcher would worry about. Researchers are
worried about access denial, not PDF.

(5) A journal issue is just a hodge-podge of mostly unrelated
articles; no need to "reconstruct" that; open access to all the
articles plus good boolean search power is all that's needed.

(6) The PostGutenberg journal is just a peer-review service provider,
for quality assurance, plus a tag (the journal name) certifying the
outcome as having met the quality standards for which the journal has
an established track record.

(7) The rest is just the journal-tagged, peer-reviewed file, sitting
safely in the author's institutional repository (suitably backed up,
mirrored, preserved, etc.), plus central harvesters providing
powerful search capability across the entire distributed corpus.

(8) Gutenberg print editions, and even para-Gutenberg publisher-PDFs
will only last as long as there is still a user demand for them; with
100% Green OA, I promise you that that demand will not be coming from
researchers, nor from students...

Stevan Harnad

On 2-Oct-09, at 12:50 PM, J.W.T.Smith wrote:

You can approximate this by using Google Scholar Advanced
Search. Search for a specific journal title and limit to a time

The result of a search for articles in ?Journal of biological
chemistry? for 2008 looks like this:

Of course the results are not clustered by issue but ranked by
number of citations. However I am sure there are people reading
this list who could write some code to reorder this results
list and cluster by issue or page number range. A little more
coding and maybe we could cluster by issue and then by page
number within each issue thus giving exact copies of contents

What could we call this new form of journal, ah yes, it would
be a ?Reconstructed Journal? :-) .




From: Repositories discussion list
Sent: 02 October 2009 14:39
Subject: Parallel journals

Today, thinking hard again about the (dis)advantages of Green
OA the following idea flashed through my mind. Green OA leads
to ?parallel articles?, i.e. the post prints of the pdf?s in
official journals. Why not having ?parallel journals? as well?
It?s not so difficult I think. Someone has to generate a list
of journal titles and issues with empty article records. And
then every repository can complete these records with the
metadata of the post prints that they hold. Just like we
created union catalogs in the old days.
As I see it, the main advantage is that we can integrate the
worlds of Gold and Green OA at journal level. Wouldn?t that be
a relief to readers, funders and authors?

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