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On 9-Dec-09, at 9:56 AM, Martin Courtois wrote:
> Allyson, Sarah, Stevan,
>
> Thanks for you suggestions...very helpful! It seems like the best
> approach is to emphasize to faculty that the major citation styles have
> specific guidelines on how to cite items without page numbers, and it's
> simply a matter of following those guidelines. The scary part of this is
> that this would be a change in how some faculty are used to doing things,
> and change doesn't come as easily for some folks as it does for others
> (;-).
>
> This is somewhat under the surface, but whenever this questions comes up,
> I get the feeling it's raised to (1) point out an inherent weakness in IRs
> and OA and (2) to indicate to me that the faculty member raising the
> question has no intention of ever using or submitting to the IR. I'm
> probably just being too sensitive, and responding to this questions with a
> solid answer will certainly help to promote use of the IR.
You're absolutely right that most of the prima facie concerns raised by
faculty are ergonomic and neophobic defensiveness (seeking excuses for not
having to do anything new)!
Here is a FAQ you might find useful:
http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/
And especially here:
http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/#38-worries
Also: Harnad, S. (2006) Opening Access by Overcoming Zeno's Paralysis, in
Jacobs, N., Eds. Open Access: Key Strategic, Technical and Economic Aspects,
chapter 8. Chandos.
http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/12094/
Best wishes,
Stevan
>
> Thanks again for your guidance,
>
> Marty
>
> Martin Courtois
> K-State Research Exchange
> 212 Hale Library
> Kansas State University
> Manhattan KS 66506
> courtois_at_ksu.edu
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Allyson Mower <allyson.mower_at_utah.edu>
> wrote:
> Hi Marty,
>
> We get this question quite a bit too. The best solution I can think of is
> to look at the citation style the person uses and its rules regarding
> in-text citations for non-print sources. Both MLA and APA have guidelines
> on this:
>
> MLA says that in-text citations to digital or Internet sources don't
> require page numbers, but have to match the source listed in the Works
> Cited page by referencing the first item that corresponds to the entry
> (author name, article title, website name, etc)
> http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/02/
>
> APA says to use the author-date style or reference headings in the item
> when page numbers aren?t available/helpful
> http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/03/
>
> In terms of the reference list/works cited page, I wonder if it would make
> sense to list an author's manuscript retrieved from an IR the same as if
> retrieved from an online database. Both APA and MLA have guidelines for
> sourcing online databases as well:
>
> APA example http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/10/
> Biswas, S. (2008). Dopamine D3 receptor: A neuroprotective treatment
> target in Parkinson's disease. Retrieved from ProQuest Digital
> Dissertations. (AAT 3295214)
>
>
> MLA example http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/08/
>
> Langhamer, Claire. ?Love and Courtship in Mid-Twentieth-Century England.?
> Historical Journal 50.1 (2007): 173-96. ProQuest. Web. 27 May 2009.
>
>
> I hope this helps. I?d love to hear what you (and others) think of this
> approach.
>
>
> Allyson
>
>
> --
> Allyson Mower
> Scholarly Communications & Copyright Librarian
> J. Willard Marriott Library, University of Utah
> (801) 585-5458
>
>
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> Subject: [SPARC-IR] How to Cite Items in an IR
>
> This question has come up several times as I talk with faculty about our
> IR: How do I cite an article that's in an IR?
>
> The root of the question seems to do with page numbers. If someone wants
> to reference a particular page, the page numbers on the author's
> manuscript archived in the IR won't match the page numbers on the
> publisher's formatted version. We include the full citation for all
> published works in our IR, and I mention to faculty they can use that
> citation to locate the published work (and page number), but that sort of
> defeats the purpose of Open Access. I've also suggested that faculty cite
> the item in the IR as a web resource, but that doesn't address to their
> liking the issue of citing a specific page.
>
> Has anyone else run into this situation? Any ideas or suggestions will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Marty
>
> Martin Courtois
> K-State Research Exchange
> 212 Hale Library
> Kansas State University
> Manhattan KS 66506
> courtois_at_ksu.edu
>
>
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